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	<title>Comments on: Free Will versus Determinism:  The Web Comic</title>
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		<title>By: GregS</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/03/16/free-will-versus-determinism-the-web-comic/comment-page-1/#comment-4332</link>
		<dc:creator>GregS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to see PhD comics has a large following. I recommend &quot;Axe Cop.&quot; It&#039;s an idea by a five year old boy and illustrated by his 29 year old cartoonist brother. Really made me laugh. It&#039;s freakin&#039; brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to see PhD comics has a large following. I recommend &#8220;Axe Cop.&#8221; It&#8217;s an idea by a five year old boy and illustrated by his 29 year old cartoonist brother. Really made me laugh. It&#8217;s freakin&#8217; brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/03/16/free-will-versus-determinism-the-web-comic/comment-page-1/#comment-4047</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but there is a joke, dr. landsburg. it is also on page 72.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but there is a joke, dr. landsburg. it is also on page 72.</p>
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		<title>By: John Faben</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/03/16/free-will-versus-determinism-the-web-comic/comment-page-1/#comment-4046</link>
		<dc:creator>John Faben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely have to second Abstruse Goose - it&#039;s still just as good as xkcd used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely have to second Abstruse Goose &#8211; it&#8217;s still just as good as xkcd used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Snorri Godhi</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/03/16/free-will-versus-determinism-the-web-comic/comment-page-1/#comment-4032</link>
		<dc:creator>Snorri Godhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me that it&#039;s been a while since I last looked at
http://www.jesusandmo.net/

&lt;b&gt;Warning&lt;/b&gt;: it manages to be both offensive to the religious and un-PC. Those are not problems for me, but sometime I find it a bit preachy (for the church of atheism) or a bit in bad taste; but that is, of course, a matter of taste.

As for free will:
First, I note that it is not necessary to accept determinism to reject free will: true randomness also excludes free will. In fact, I am not sure what people really mean by &quot;free will&quot;, since it can be neither determinism nor randomness, nor any combination limited to these two alternatives.
Second, nonetheless I do accept that we have free will, in the sense that we are free to choose the actions most suited to our goals. (By comparison, a thermostat has a goal, but no choice in what action to use.) What we are not free to do is to choose our goals, except on the basis of meta-goals (or randomly). Thus, if we exclude an infinite regress, we do not have full free will; but what we have is better than nothing, and I would not give it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me that it&#8217;s been a while since I last looked at<br />
<a href="http://www.jesusandmo.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesusandmo.net/</a></p>
<p><b>Warning</b>: it manages to be both offensive to the religious and un-PC. Those are not problems for me, but sometime I find it a bit preachy (for the church of atheism) or a bit in bad taste; but that is, of course, a matter of taste.</p>
<p>As for free will:<br />
First, I note that it is not necessary to accept determinism to reject free will: true randomness also excludes free will. In fact, I am not sure what people really mean by &#8220;free will&#8221;, since it can be neither determinism nor randomness, nor any combination limited to these two alternatives.<br />
Second, nonetheless I do accept that we have free will, in the sense that we are free to choose the actions most suited to our goals. (By comparison, a thermostat has a goal, but no choice in what action to use.) What we are not free to do is to choose our goals, except on the basis of meta-goals (or randomly). Thus, if we exclude an infinite regress, we do not have full free will; but what we have is better than nothing, and I would not give it away.</p>
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		<title>By: MattF</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/03/16/free-will-versus-determinism-the-web-comic/comment-page-1/#comment-4029</link>
		<dc:creator>MattF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://basicinstructions.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Basic Instructions&lt;/A&gt; is one of my favorites, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slowwave.com/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slow Wave&lt;/A&gt; is just... &lt;i&gt;extremely&lt;/i&gt; unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://basicinstructions.net/" rel="nofollow">Basic Instructions</a> is one of my favorites, and <a href="http://www.slowwave.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">Slow Wave</a> is just&#8230; <i>extremely</i> unique.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Kariv</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/03/16/free-will-versus-determinism-the-web-comic/comment-page-1/#comment-4018</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Kariv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spiked math, order of the stick and abstruse goose (also Phd and xkcd but these have been mentiond above)

http://spikedmath.com/

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html

http://abstrusegoose.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spiked math, order of the stick and abstruse goose (also Phd and xkcd but these have been mentiond above)</p>
<p><a href="http://spikedmath.com/" rel="nofollow">http://spikedmath.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://abstrusegoose.com/" rel="nofollow">http://abstrusegoose.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Perry Bible Fellowship</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/03/16/free-will-versus-determinism-the-web-comic/comment-page-1/#comment-4015</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Bible Fellowship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perry Bible Fellowship in my opinion is one of the best comic strips ever created. A random sampling 

http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF093-Check_Shots.jpg
http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF205-Robin_Hood.jpg (Steve would love this since I assume he does not like Robin Hood)
http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF146-Bumble_Buzzin.jpg

There is probably not a single comic which one may dislike!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry Bible Fellowship in my opinion is one of the best comic strips ever created. A random sampling </p>
<p><a href="http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF093-Check_Shots.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF093-Check_Shots.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF205-Robin_Hood.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF205-Robin_Hood.jpg</a> (Steve would love this since I assume he does not like Robin Hood)<br />
<a href="http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF146-Bumble_Buzzin.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF146-Bumble_Buzzin.jpg</a></p>
<p>There is probably not a single comic which one may dislike!!</p>
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		<title>By: bart.mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>bart.mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classics.  SMBC is one of my favorites.  I also love Sluggy Freelance, but you have to read all of them.  Its a 11 year story thats&#039;s still going.  How can you go wrong with a sociopathic lop eared rabbit, an inflatable space ship, a guy in a trench coat who invents dimension traveling machines in his basement, or an nerd with a magic sword?

On the more serious topic of free will and determinism, I have a question.  After reading the arguments and the science, I lost my belief in free will.  If humans lack free will, then why are personal freedoms so important?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classics.  SMBC is one of my favorites.  I also love Sluggy Freelance, but you have to read all of them.  Its a 11 year story thats&#8217;s still going.  How can you go wrong with a sociopathic lop eared rabbit, an inflatable space ship, a guy in a trench coat who invents dimension traveling machines in his basement, or an nerd with a magic sword?</p>
<p>On the more serious topic of free will and determinism, I have a question.  After reading the arguments and the science, I lost my belief in free will.  If humans lack free will, then why are personal freedoms so important?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Landsburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Landsburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin:  These are great.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin:  These are great.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sprobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sprobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometimes get a kick out of Dinosaur Comics:
http://www.qwantz.com/index.php

Some fun ones:
http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=214
http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1341
http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1382</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes get a kick out of Dinosaur Comics:<br />
<a href="http://www.qwantz.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.qwantz.com/index.php</a></p>
<p>Some fun ones:<br />
<a href="http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=214" rel="nofollow">http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=214</a><br />
<a href="http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1341" rel="nofollow">http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1341</a><br />
<a href="http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1382" rel="nofollow">http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1382</a></p>
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