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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Environmental Economics at Steven Landsburg &#124; The Big Questions: Tackling the Problems of Philosophy with Ideas from Mathematics, Economics, and Physics -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/06/17/environmental-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Environmental Economics at Steven Landsburg &#124; The Big Questions: Tackling the Problems of Philosophy with Ideas from Mathematics, Economics, and Physics -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Elephant's Child</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/06/17/environmental-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7840</link>
		<dc:creator>The Elephant's Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read (but cannot verify) that BP was rapidly paying claims for damages before the Obama administration created the escrow account to be managed by another &quot;Czar&quot; -- in this case the &quot;Pay Czar.&quot; I have not heard of any instance in which BP is trying to avoid responsibility. I would be willing to guess that payment to those, like the shrimpers, now without a livelihood, will arrive much more slowly as it filters through the government bureaucracy.  

Hauling BP before a Congressional inquisition (when many answers are not yet available) so Congressmen can pose and preen, forcing BP into an illegal or extra-legal $20 billion escrow fund has unintended consequences. Overseas businessmen are rethinking any interest in investing or doing business in the U.S. 

And on shrimping and Louisiana --- Have you ever seen a display of Oregon shrimp in your fish market? It would be a rare giant that reached one inch in length. Perhaps there&#039;s more reason for shrimping in the Gulf than growing up there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read (but cannot verify) that BP was rapidly paying claims for damages before the Obama administration created the escrow account to be managed by another &#8220;Czar&#8221; &#8212; in this case the &#8220;Pay Czar.&#8221; I have not heard of any instance in which BP is trying to avoid responsibility. I would be willing to guess that payment to those, like the shrimpers, now without a livelihood, will arrive much more slowly as it filters through the government bureaucracy.  </p>
<p>Hauling BP before a Congressional inquisition (when many answers are not yet available) so Congressmen can pose and preen, forcing BP into an illegal or extra-legal $20 billion escrow fund has unintended consequences. Overseas businessmen are rethinking any interest in investing or doing business in the U.S. </p>
<p>And on shrimping and Louisiana &#8212; Have you ever seen a display of Oregon shrimp in your fish market? It would be a rare giant that reached one inch in length. Perhaps there&#8217;s more reason for shrimping in the Gulf than growing up there?</p>
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		<title>By: jpd</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really? no shrimping there before oil wells?
didn&#039;t know that.

if i grew up in coastal louisiana, i am not sure how much
of a choice i have as to where i shrimp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really? no shrimping there before oil wells?<br />
didn&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>if i grew up in coastal louisiana, i am not sure how much<br />
of a choice i have as to where i shrimp.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/06/17/environmental-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7808</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is it of any interest that the shrimpers require bp&#039;s product to operate, yet bp workers could just eat rice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it of any interest that the shrimpers require bp&#8217;s product to operate, yet bp workers could just eat rice?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Landsburg</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/06/17/environmental-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7805</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Landsburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Wiblin:  &lt;i&gt;What external costs do the shrimpers actually impose? &lt;/i&gt;  The external cost imposed by the shrimpers is that they make it costlier for BP to drill for oil, because, following a spill, they are going to come looking to BP for compensation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Wiblin:  <i>What external costs do the shrimpers actually impose? </i>  The external cost imposed by the shrimpers is that they make it costlier for BP to drill for oil, because, following a spill, they are going to come looking to BP for compensation.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wiblin</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/06/17/environmental-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7804</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wiblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What external costs do the shrimpers actually impose? Imagine even that they sold all their rights to seek compensation if BP inhibits their shrimping. So BP acts as if they suffer no costs (and so there are more spills).

But even under those conditions, the optimal amount of shrimping might well be greater than zero. It&#039;s not the shrimping that is costly per se - it&#039;s only keeping the water pure for shrimpers all the time which is costly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What external costs do the shrimpers actually impose? Imagine even that they sold all their rights to seek compensation if BP inhibits their shrimping. So BP acts as if they suffer no costs (and so there are more spills).</p>
<p>But even under those conditions, the optimal amount of shrimping might well be greater than zero. It&#8217;s not the shrimping that is costly per se &#8211; it&#8217;s only keeping the water pure for shrimpers all the time which is costly.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wiblin</title>
		<link>http://www.thebigquestions.com/2010/06/17/environmental-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7799</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wiblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So give the shrimpers the right to determine who drills for oil, and let them sell off the rights for a price they choose?

Lots of actors amongst the shrimpers would make that hard. Also adds to any tragedy of the anticommons present in getting drilling set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So give the shrimpers the right to determine who drills for oil, and let them sell off the rights for a price they choose?</p>
<p>Lots of actors amongst the shrimpers would make that hard. Also adds to any tragedy of the anticommons present in getting drilling set up.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 06:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;...the question of determining the efficient solution.&#039;

well first things first, gotta stop the spill. 
i would put bp&#039;s squad of their finest up against pretty much anybody elses when it boils down to deadliest warrior of oil extraction technology. 
i seem to recall them saying at the beginning the only way they had to &#039;guarantee&#039; to kill the well is drill the relief wells and kill it that way. in a way, the problem has already been solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;the question of determining the efficient solution.&#8217;</p>
<p>well first things first, gotta stop the spill.<br />
i would put bp&#8217;s squad of their finest up against pretty much anybody elses when it boils down to deadliest warrior of oil extraction technology.<br />
i seem to recall them saying at the beginning the only way they had to &#8216;guarantee&#8217; to kill the well is drill the relief wells and kill it that way. in a way, the problem has already been solved.</p>
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		<title>By: dWj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dWj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this post this morning, and thought of it this afternoon, when I saw a car that seemed to be designed to suffer expensive damage if rear-ended.

My understanding is that New Jersey caps medical liability for injuring (in a car accident) a passenger who isn&#039;t wearing his or her seat belt.  I suppose that gets the expected marginal cost to careless drivers wrong, but people seem to dislike assigning liability that adds up to more than the total cost, and it seems better than placing none of the risk on the person deciding whether to buckle up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this post this morning, and thought of it this afternoon, when I saw a car that seemed to be designed to suffer expensive damage if rear-ended.</p>
<p>My understanding is that New Jersey caps medical liability for injuring (in a car accident) a passenger who isn&#8217;t wearing his or her seat belt.  I suppose that gets the expected marginal cost to careless drivers wrong, but people seem to dislike assigning liability that adds up to more than the total cost, and it seems better than placing none of the risk on the person deciding whether to buckle up.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it not also the case that were it not for U.S. policy limiting shrimp imports, U.S. shrimp prices would be much lower, the Gulf shrimp industry would be much smaller (non-existent?) and the financial damage suffered by shrimpers due to the spill would be much smaller (non-existent?)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it not also the case that were it not for U.S. policy limiting shrimp imports, U.S. shrimp prices would be much lower, the Gulf shrimp industry would be much smaller (non-existent?) and the financial damage suffered by shrimpers due to the spill would be much smaller (non-existent?)?</p>
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